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Knot DNS 3.4.2 release

Günther J. Niederwimmer

31 Říj 2024 31 Říj '24

13:57

Hello Daniel, Are the EPEL packages no longer available (?), I'm stuck at 3.3.9. There have been no updates since then. Or can you download the .rpm from somewhere else now? -- mit freundlichen Grüßen / best regards Günther J. Niederwimmer

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Angus Clarke

31 Říj 31 Říj

14:07

Hi Günther The Fedora EPEL version 3.3.9 was built quite recently: rpm -qip knot-3.3.9-1.el9.x86_64.rpm | grep Build\ Date Build Date : Mon 26 Aug 2024 16:52:07 CEST Which is the same day Daniel announced that version actually! I guess whoever maintains the package in Ferdora EPEL needs poking. Hope that helps Regards Angus ---- On Thu, 31 Oct 2024 13:57:11 +0100 Günther J. Niederwimmer <mailto:gjn@gjn.priv.at> wrote --- Hello Daniel, Are the EPEL packages no longer available (?), I'm stuck at 3.3.9. There have been no updates since then. Or can you download the .rpm from somewhere else now? -- mit freundlichen Grüßen / best regards Günther J. Niederwimmer --

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Günther J. Niederwimmer

14:20

Hello, I found it and created a new repo, now I have the current node again ;-) you just have to be able to read. Thanks for your help. Am Donnerstag, 31. Oktober 2024, 13:57:11 Mitteleuropäische Normalzeit schrieb Günther J. Niederwimmer:

Hello Daniel, Are the EPEL packages no longer available (?), I'm stuck at 3.3.9. There have

been no updates since then. Or can you download the .rpm from

somewhere else now?

-- mit freundlichen Grüßen / best regards Günther J. Niederwimmer

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Jakub Ružička

14:46

Hey, I'm the maintainer of Fedora/EPEL (also Debian) Knot DNS packages. I kept Fedora/EPEL Knot DNS packages up to date past few years in all active releases (pain), but that is kinda against Fedora policy and I noticed other maintainers don't do minor/major version rebases on Fedora packages so I adjusted my process accordingly - no major/minor version bumps in released Fedora/EPEL versions. When in Rome, do as the Romans do. IOW EPEL and Fedora Knot DNS packages stay at stable branch, currently 3.3.x - they'll receive 3.3.x updates but no rebases to 3.4.x and above as these are disruptive. Note that we provide COPR for latest and greatest Knot DNS: https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/g/cznic/knot-dns-latest/ as well as previous stable: https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/g/cznic/knot-dns/ both are linked from Knot DNS Downloads page: https://www.knot-dns.cz/download/ I could be persuaded to rebase latest Fedora 41 and possibly EPEL 9 to latest 3.4.x with good arguments, let me know what you think. Note that we have greater control over COPR and can provide packages almost instantly as opposed to a week in Fedora / EPEL. EL in particular is supposed to be a stable distro, so I don't think disruptive rebases (such as Knot DNS 3.3 -> 3.4 which can break its deps) are appropriate. Debian is even stricter on this - once a stable release is forked, only targeted patches may come in, no version bumps. I perform patch releases (like 3.3.8 -> 3.3.9) but no more minor bumps (like 3.3.x -> 3.4.x). This should bring greater stability for normal distro users and those who want latest and greatest are welcome to use our well maintained and tested COPR. I'm open to suggestions regarding this. Cheers, Jakub Ružička On 10/31/24 13:57, Günther J. Niederwimmer wrote:

Hello Daniel, Are the EPEL packages no longer available (?), I'm stuck at 3.3.9. There have been no updates since then. Or can you download the .rpm from somewhere else now?

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Günther J. Niederwimmer

15:09

Hello, THANKS for the detailed description, I "thought" 3.4 was the last stable release, but OK, now I have 3.4 and I'll see what's going on? THANKS again for the quick answers. Am Donnerstag, 31. Oktober 2024, 14:46:44 Mitteleuropäische Normalzeit schrieb Jakub Ružička:

Hey, I'm the maintainer of Fedora/EPEL (also Debian) Knot DNS packages. I kept Fedora/EPEL Knot DNS packages up to date past few years in all active releases (pain), but that is kinda against Fedora policy and I noticed other maintainers don't do minor/major version rebases on Fedora packages so I adjusted my process accordingly - no major/minor version bumps in released Fedora/EPEL versions. When in Rome, do as the Romans do. IOW EPEL and Fedora Knot DNS packages stay at stable branch, currently 3.3.x - they'll receive 3.3.x updates but no rebases to 3.4.x and above as these are disruptive. Note that we provide COPR for latest and greatest Knot DNS: https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/g/cznic/knot-dns-latest/ as well as previous stable: https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/g/cznic/knot-dns/ both are linked from Knot DNS Downloads page: https://www.knot-dns.cz/download/ I could be persuaded to rebase latest Fedora 41 and possibly EPEL 9 to latest 3.4.x with good arguments, let me know what you think. Note that we have greater control over COPR and can provide packages almost instantly as opposed to a week in Fedora / EPEL. EL in particular is supposed to be a stable distro, so I don't think disruptive rebases (such as Knot DNS 3.3 -> 3.4 which can break its deps) are appropriate. Debian is even stricter on this - once a stable release is forked, only targeted patches may come in, no version bumps. I perform patch releases (like 3.3.8 -> 3.3.9) but no more minor bumps (like 3.3.x -> 3.4.x). This should bring greater stability for normal distro users and those who want latest and greatest are welcome to use our well maintained and tested COPR. I'm open to suggestions regarding this. Cheers, Jakub Ružička On 10/31/24 13:57, Günther J. Niederwimmer wrote: > Hello Daniel, > > Are the EPEL packages no longer available (?), I'm stuck at 3.3.9. There > have been no updates since then. Or can you download the .rpm from > somewhere else now?

-- mit freundlichen Grüßen / best regards Günther J. Niederwimmer

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Mike Wright

15:32

On 10/31/24 07:09, Günther J. Niederwimmer wrote:

Debian is even stricter on this - once a stable release is forked, only targeted patches may come in, no version bumps. I perform patch releases (like 3.3.8 -> 3.3.9) but no more minor bumps (like 3.3.x -> 3.4.x).

I've a Debian Bookworm in a data center and this morning's update/upgrade cycle brought in knotd-3.4.2.

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Jakub Ružička

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16:04

On 10/31/24 15:32, Mike Wright wrote:

On 10/31/24 07:09, Günther J. Niederwimmer wrote:

Debian is even stricter on this - once a stable release is forked, only targeted patches may come in, no version bumps. I perform patch releases (like 3.3.8 -> 3.3.9) but no more minor bumps (like 3.3.x -> 3.4.x).

I've a Debian Bookworm in a data center and this morning's update/upgrade cycle brought in knotd-3.4.2.

Then you're using Debian unstable, not stable Bookworm which is at 3.2.6-1. More info in Debian package tracker: https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/knot

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Mike Wright

17:20

On 11/1/24 08:04, Jakub Ružička via knot-dns-users wrote:

On 10/31/24 15:32, Mike Wright wrote:

On 10/31/24 07:09, Günther J. Niederwimmer wrote:

Debian is even stricter on this - once a stable release is forked, only targeted patches may come in, no version bumps. I perform patch releases (like 3.3.8 -> 3.3.9) but no more minor bumps (like 3.3.x -> 3.4.x).

I've a Debian Bookworm in a data center and this morning's update/upgrade cycle brought in knotd-3.4.2.

Then you're using Debian unstable, not stable Bookworm which is at 3.2.6-1.

You're right. I'd installed the cznic-labs repo so it got pulled from there...

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Angus Clarke
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