my apologies - i did not mean to post this here. but now that I did - hope it's helpful - Julian did a good job describing the install. I'm going to try it. thanks julian. joe On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 5:52 PM, Joe Baptista <baptista(a)publicroot.org>wrote;wrote: -- Joe Baptista www.publicroot.org PublicRoot Consortium ---------------------------------------------------------------- The future of the Internet is Open, Transparent, Inclusive, Representative & Accountable to the Internet community @large. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Office: +1 (360) 526-6077 (extension 052) Fax: +1 (509) 479-0084 Personal: http://baptista.cynikal.net/