6 Zář
2016
6 Zář
'16
12:32
On Mon, 2016-09-05 at 15:18 +0200, Dr Paulos B Nyirenda wrote:
Jaromir,
Thank you for the below details on transferes, however, the incidence
of domain transfers
has been high on the ,mw registry and we would like to explore the
possibility of charging for
them on FRED, like other registries do - for example .eu, see
https://eurid.eu/en/fees-and-prepayments
As result we put this in the Fee Policy for .mw - http://www.sdnp.re
gistrar.mw/policy.php
So, I would like to explore further and more deeply how FRED handles
transfers.
Are transfers logged anywhere ? ... can we scan for and extract such
data from such a log ?
Definitely. Every EPP transaction is stored in request tables. One way
to list all transfers per registrar over last month is following SQL:
SELECT user_name, COUNT(*) FROM request r JOIN request_type rt ON
(r.request_type_id=rt.id) WHERE r.service_id=3 and r.is_monitoring='f'
and (DATE_TRUNC('month',time_begin::timestamptz AT TIME ZONE
'Europe/Prague') = DATE_TRUNC('month',CURRENT_TIMESTAMP AT TIME ZONE
'Europe/Prague' - INTERVAL '0 month')) AND
rt.name='DomainTransfer' AND
r.result_code_id=(SELECT id FROM result_code WHERE service_id=3 AND
result_code=1000) GROUP BY user_name;
Just change time zone to yours.
Can we see details of such a log in Daphne ?
Yes, you can. If you will go to Logs->Logs and select Service type =
EPP and add Request Type filter with value DomainTransfer, you will see
the same result.
If enough details exist in a log on transfers then may
be we can
process such a log and
invoice the transfers at the end of the month. Would be great if
there was a way of doing this
using the registrar deposit.
This is quite tricky and I'm afraid there is no direct function for
general charging of unknown item.
I guess Jaromir that you afre already doing something
like that for
registrars who exceedsa
certain number of EPP transactions at .cz. Do you then charge this to
the registrar credit or
do you send them a separate invoice?
Yes, we have implemented this to be included in monthly invoice.
We are internally working on refactoring of billing component so I can
record 'charging of other things' as a feature request, but I cannot
promise this will be implemented in following month, maybe at the
beginning of next year.
I will try to explore other possibilities but in the meantime the only
way is to charge registrars outside of FRED.
Regards,
Jaromir
Regards,
Paulos
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Dr Paulos B Nyirenda
NIC.MW & .mw ccTLD
http://www.registrar.mw
On 5 Sep 2016 at 12:28, Jaromir Talir wrote:
>
> On Fri, 2016-09-02 at 11:37 +0200, Dr Paulos B Nyirenda wrote:
> >
> > Jaromir, all,
> >
> > Our FRED registry 3R operation is going well enough that we can
> > now
> > move on to tackle
> > issues on domain transfers and I have one or two questions with
> > the
> > following understanding
> > that I have:.
> >
> > 1. My understanding is that: Once auth_info has been sent from
> > current owner A to new
> > owner B for domain dA.mw then B can do the transfer, such as
> > using
> > fred-client command:
> >
> > transfer_domain dA.mw auth_info_A [other_options]
> >
> > Is this correct? what are the other options?
> Just small correction about term owner. There is registrar A and
> registrar B. Owener (registrant) is the same for the whole process.
> So
> Owner will get auth_info and send it to registrar B that that will
> call
> 'transfer_domain domain_name auth_info', there is no other options.
> Domain is transferred and auth_info is reset to a new value.
>
> >
> > 2. A WHOIS query for dA.mw will then list new registrar: B
> Yes
>
> >
> > 3. System then generates new auth_info_B and assigns it under
> > registrar B ... right ?
> Yes
>
> >
> > 4. How can the registry charge for the transfer of the domain
> > dA.mw?
> Since there is not registry "cost" associated with transfer, there
> is
> no possibility to charge transfers. Expiration date is not changed
> during transfer so registry has got already paid for this domain
> until
> expiration date.
>
> >
> > 5. What needs to be configured in FRED to charge for domain
> > transfers
> > like this one?
> Explained above
>
> >
> > 6. If this FRED config can be done using fred-admin then please
> > show
> > syntax for trhe
> > fred-admin command to configure charging for domain transfers.
> Explained above
>
> >
> > 7. If there a similar arrangement for transfering other objects
> > like
> > contacts and/or nssets?
> Yes, contacts, nssets and keysets are transferred the same way -
> they
> have auth_info and new registrar can call trasnfer command with
> auth_info.
>
> Regards,
> Jaromir
>
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Paulos
> > ======================
> > Dr Paulos B Nyirenda
> > NIC.MW & .mw ccTLD
> > http://www.registrar.mw
> >
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