Good Morning all,
We (i.e. .RW registry – RICTA Ltd.) are not using FRED but I think the prepayment model is more or less the same.
#1. We don’t pre-invoice the registrars based on a “pre-established” list of domain names.
This is a lot of work, and it won’t scale if you have 100 of registrars, unless the registry does that for them.
But even if it is possible from the registry, it is a lot of work for “them” (i.e. manual work).
Therefore, they (registrars) just send money/amount, let say $500 or 30,000 RWF, and that is what we issue the invoice for.
With a simple description, i.e. “Advance payment”. BTW, the amount can vary depending on what they want to register, renew, etc.
The law in Rwanda don’t allow to receive money without an invoice. (it being advance or actual payment).
#2. Once received, we credit their accounts in the Registry system. (still a manual process).
Then they can do whatever they want with it (i.e. do registration, renewal, pay for transfer fees, etc.).
I think this approach (above) is more flexible.
A little additional info:
The money received from registrars, is a liability until it is consumed.
Until it is consumed, it cannot yet be called revenues from your side (registry).
From financial “documents” perspective, an un-consumed advance payment is a liability that needs to seat in the balance sheet.
Once the revenue is realized (end of month), the money can be recognized in you Income statement. (you debit the liability and credit your income accounts).
Sorry if this is perhaps more than what you asked for.
Thank you,
Ghislain
.RW registry
From: fred-users <fred-users-bounces@lists.nic.cz> on behalf of Jaromir Talir <jaromir.talir@nic.cz>
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Date: Friday, 23 June 2017 at 17:18
To: <paulos@sdnp.org.mw>, <fred-users@lists.nic.cz>
Subject: Re: payments - invoices and statements on FRED registry system
Hi Paulos,
I guess this is more question for some Malawi lawyer. In Czech Republic
we have a law that we should issue invoice when we receive advanced
payment. However, this may be something specific for our legislation.
Also every legislation specifies what should be the content of the
invoice in that case (issuer, recipient, day of payment, effective day
of service, etc..). This may differ country to country as well. FRED
contains PDF templates for invoices according Czech legislation. I
cannot say if they may be used for you as well.
If you will be in Joburg, we can have a talk about it there.
Regards,
Jaromir
On Fri, 2017-06-16 at 05:15 +0200, Dr P Nyirenda wrote:
Hello,
I would like to find out how your registry responds to a request like
the one here below
for invoices and statements on registrar payments to a registry that
uses the FRED
registry system.
On our registry for the Malawi .mw ccTLD, registrar payments are
credited to the
registrar zone by zone according to what the registrar has paid for.
Once the registrar
has consumed the credit, then they need to make a new payment in
advance which is then
credited to the zones that they need.
We do not need to issue them an invoice in advance, they make the
payments based on what
transactions they need to do on each zone.
When we receive a request for their data payments, we have used
Invoice on Daphne to
generate the data and we have sent this to the registrar.
However, as you can see here below, this registrar seems to be asking
for more.
I would therefore like to request information on how your registry
using FRED handles
requests for data, invoices and statements like these.
Regards,
Paulos
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Dr Paulos B Nyirenda
NIC.MW & .mw ccTLD
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From: Jamil Kamaly <Jamil.Kamaly@NetNames.com>
To: "paulos@sdnp.org.mw" <paulos@sdnp.org.mw>
Copies to: Michal Czyz <Michal.Czyz@NetNames.com>, domains mw
PB Nyirenda <pb.nyirenda@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: Malawi payments.
Date sent: Wed, 14 Jun 2017 11:56:39 +0000
Hi Dr Paulos,
I think you might have misunderstood, I wasn’t complaining. The
details you provided me
in April was excel spreadsheet with payment details and the zones
that were topped. We
need proper invoices and statements and therefore I was following up
on our last
conversation where you was saying that you are developing a system to
make this possible.
I was just checking if this is now possible and would we be getting
proper statements
and invoices.
Thank you.
Kind regards,
Jamil
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